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posted by desk_jockey_dana 15d ago

BPC-157 and alcohol, does it matter

Quick beginner question. I'm on BPC for my wrist tendinitis and I have a friend's bachelorette party coming up where I'll probably have a few drinks. Do I need to skip pinning that day or will alcohol just cancel everything out? Kind of paranoid about wasting money and time on this if one night out ruins it.

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LabRatLouisBoston, MA9 points15d ago
There's actually a decent amount of animal data on this specific question, which surprised me when I first went looking. The Zagreb group that runs most of the BPC-157 research has done several studies where they gave rats BPC-157 alongside alcohol exposure, both acute and chronic. It protected the stomach lining, the liver, and even showed protective effects in the brain. One study had rats on chronic alcohol for three months and BPC-157 both prevented and reversed the portal hypertension and liver lesions that showed up. They actually call it a suitable alcohol antagonist in some of these papers, and the mechanism they propose is tied to how it modulates nitric oxide signaling during ethanol exposure. None of that is human data though, so don't read this as license to drink like you're not on anything. For your actual question, a couple drinks at a party is not the same animal as the chronic three month exposure model. I wouldn't lose sleep over one night.

Preclinical is not a promise.

Dr_Rehab_RayCleveland, OH5 points15d ago
The rat liver stuff is interesting but it's kind of beside the point for your wrist. What matters for tendon healing is collagen synthesis, sleep quality, and systemic inflammation, and heavy drinking hits all three regardless of what peptide you're running. A night out here and there isn't the thing that's going to stall your recovery. Weekend binge drinking as a pattern would be.

Load is the drug with the best data.

rotator_cuff_rickNaperville, IL5 points15d ago
If a single night of drinking at a wedding is enough to torch your tendon healing you've got bigger problems than the wrist.

Two years of patience beat six months of panic.

tendon_tinkerAustin, TX7 points15d ago
I track this obsessively because of course I do. Looked back at my log and there's zero visible difference in my morning grip strength numbers on the days after I had 2-3 drinks versus not, over about 8 months of data. Small sample of course, n=1, but for what it's worth the occasional drink didn't show up as a variable that mattered for me.

Measure it or it did not happen.

CoachTerrellAtlanta, GA2 points15d ago
Peptides are the last five percent of this conversation for most people and this thread is a good example why. Sleep and consistent loading are doing the heavy lifting on tendon adaptation. Alcohol messes with sleep architecture more than people give it credit for. Fix that variable before you worry about whether a beer cancels out a peptide.

You cannot inject your way out of a bad program.

AchillesAnnaPortland, OR3 points15d ago
Had this exact worry before a friend's wedding last year while I was mid protocol for my Achilles. Had wine, danced way more than I should have on a healing tendon honestly, and the tendon issue that flared was from the dancing not the wine. Been fine since. One night out really isn't the villain here.

Slow is smooth. Smooth is 5k pace eventually.

slow_healer_samBoise, ID2 points15d ago
Does the withdrawal thing in the study mean it could help with a hangover too or is that a stretch

Still here. Still slow.

LabRatLouisBoston, MA1 points15d ago
That's a stretch. The withdrawal data was from rats on months of chronic heavy exposure, not a hangover from one night. Different situation entirely and I wouldn't extrapolate that far.

Preclinical is not a promise.

desk_jockey_danaRaleigh, NC6 points15d ago
Ok this helps a lot, thank you. Guess I'll enjoy the party and just not turn it into a whole weekend bender like I might have pre-injury.

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